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+# budibase
+Docs:
+
+* https://docs.budibase.com/
+
+By default self-host docs recommend docker. Meh.
+
+Probably least painful to use Docker, then do reverse proxy.
+
+
+```
+docker run -d -t \
+  --name=budibase \
+  -p 10000:80 \
+  -v /local/path/data:/data \
+  --restart unless-stopped \
+  budibase/budibase:latest
+```
+
+# Meh
+Has pro repo, recursive clone of repo fails.
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+# formbuilder
+
+Set up apache
+
+```
+a2enmod proxy proxy_http headers proxy_wstunnel
+
+# Add to apache config:
+    <Location />
+        ProxyPass http://127.0.0.1:8080/
+    </Location>
+```
+
+Install
+
+```
+git clone https://github.com/kevinchappell/formBuilder
+cd formBuilder/
+npm install
+npm start
+```
+
+Another way.
+```
+npm i --save formBuilder
+```
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+# formio
+Needs npm version 20. Version 18 is current version in Debian stable (bookworm).
+
+
+So, install upstream npm...
+```
+# Remove existing debian version
+sudo apt purge --autoremove nodejs npm
+
+# Install upstream version
+curl -fsSL https://deb.nodesource.com/setup_22.x -o nodesource_setup.sh
+sudo -E bash nodesource_setup.sh
+sudo apt install nodejs
+
+# Check it is ok
+node -v
+```
+
+Now install formio...
+
+```
+git clone https://github.com/formio/formio
+cd formio/
+git checkout v4.2.2
+npm install # FTBFS, stable and HEAD
+# run thing
+node server
+# Then set up proxy.
+```